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Puppy - vomiting, disoriented, sluggish

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We have a 3 month old beagle/boxer mix that we just got about two weeks ago. Every thing has been fine except for this week when she started to vomit foamy like substance from her mouth and for about 5 minuntes she was disoriented. She had gotten a hold of a small piece of pencil earlier in the day so we thought she was sick from that. Yesterday, it happended again but more syliva than foam this time and she was not disoriented but just sluggish. When we pick her up she is shaking, but doesnt seem to be in any pain until you touch her mouth. When I look in her mouth, it seems as though she has several teeth coming in, could this be because of teething?

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Time for a vet visit.

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No, it's not from teething. I would take her to the vet. You can get lead poisoning from chewing on pencils.

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I agree. It's not likely from teething. She might be having seizures or something else that is also serious. She definitely needs a vet.

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This is completely abnormal.
Puppies throw up sometimes, but it's normally food (has she been eating at all?), and I have NEVER seen a puppy act disoriented or sluggish after throwing up, so that's bad.
When a normal healthy puppy throws up it's usually just a little stomach upset from their food(all babies get this sometimes), and then afterward they're as good as new and want to play.

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No, it's not from teething. I would take her to the vet. You can get lead poisoning from chewing on pencils
Pencils don't have lead in them, though it's called that.
The "lead" in pencils is usually graphite.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil

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Originally Posted by rainbow
No, it's not from teething. I would take her to the vet. You can get lead poisoning from chewing on pencils.

Actually, no you can't. The "lead" in pencils is actually graphite. See this link:
http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s1195234.htm

But she may have a splinter in her gums, which is why her teeth are sore. There are lots of conditions which would lead a puppy to have what sounds (to me) like a seizure, the biggest concern being epilepsy. Epilepsy is apparently fairly common in Beagles, so please do be sure that you have her taken to the vet on suspicion of epliepsy, if nothing else.

Good luck and please post to update us.
Melissa

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I know this has nothing to do with the topic, but just a little info. for your 3month old puppy.
Puppies lose their baby teeth at 3-6months and their adult teeth come out. Just like humans! lol.

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Actually, no you can't. The "lead" in pencils is actually graphite.
Pencils don't have lead in them, though it's called that.
The "lead" in pencils is usually graphite.
LOL...my age is showing. When I was a kid I used to chew on my pencils at school and ended up with sores in my mouth which was diagnosed as lead poisoning. I never had kids and haven't used a pencil since elementary school so didn't know they changed the lead to graphite.

Sorry for going a little off topic.

Winsan, please take your puppy to the vet and post with an update.

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Thank you for all your replies. We did take the puppy to the vet and discovered that there was something wrong with her brain and there was no hope, so we had to put her down. The vet indicated that it had nothing to do with anything she ate, she was born with it and it could not have been avoided.

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Sorry to hear that it's unfortunate you did not give her much of a chance though,many disorders like Epilepsy can be treated..
little pup

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I'm sorry to hear about the puppy.
Do you recall what the vet said the problem was?

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Rainbow; unless you're well over 100 years old, then you didn't use true lead pencils in school. If you read the link I posted, it says However, even though writing pencils made of graphite were first used around 1565, writing pencils that used lead were still in very common use in the 18th century. Why? Because they were cheaper, even if they were toxic. But, you certainly wouldn't want to suck on a "lead" pencil if it really had lead in it. In fact, lead pencils became extinct only in the early 20th century.
So I'm guessing that you just had an allergic reaction to the graphite in your pencil, or perhaps to the paint on it. Symptoms of lead poisoning can be found here: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...3.htm#Symptoms

Winsan: I'm sorry for your loss, and I'm glad that you were able to get the puppy to the vet before he got much worse. At least he had a few weeks with you, to enjoy life. I would suggest that you take the vet report back to where you got the puppy and see if they will do anything about it--this could be a sign of bad breeding or toxins in the environment where the mom lived. Perhaps they can give you another dog?

Good luck, and hope your heart isn't too broken to try again. Perhaps a shelter would have a similar-looking dog that can mend your heart.

Melissa

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Hmmm....all I know is that the doctor said I had lead poisoning. I was only 7 or 8 at the time so not really old enough to question anything. I guess it was probably the paint on the pencils that caused it then.

Anyways, the treatment (liquid) turned the inside of my mouth purple so I did get some time off school. And I was so frightened of being "poisoned" that I never chewed on my pencils again.


Winsan, sorry for the slight Also, sorry to hear about your puppy As pitgrrl asked, do you recall what the vet said it was?

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Originally Posted by dogmelissa

I would suggest that you take the vet report back to where you got the puppy and see if they will do anything about it--this could be a sign of bad breeding or toxins in the environment where the mom lived. Perhaps they can give you another dog?


Melissa

Probably the puppy was a rescue dog. It was a mixed breed, so going back to the breeder for another dog probably isn't an option.

Winsan, sorry for your loss. I think I'd try again. Another puppy is out there waiting for you to come & get her--a happy, healthy puppy can help you with your sadness.

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